tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3390339670562150697.post7982893995647212192..comments2023-06-04T06:02:35.629-07:00Comments on Tempo-Free Soccer: Passing %, Passes Per Turnover, and the Presentation of DataAOLSHhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07012226843640147561noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3390339670562150697.post-24979930202462544492013-08-05T13:06:36.705-07:002013-08-05T13:06:36.705-07:00Absolutely. Don't get me wrong I would love t...Absolutely. Don't get me wrong I would love to see that data included too as turnovers, but calculating that figure is much more difficult. I am able to do it for MLS, but in other leagues the requisite data is nearly impossible to come by.AOLSHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07012226843640147561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3390339670562150697.post-72608041681165584652013-07-25T09:14:40.877-07:002013-07-25T09:14:40.877-07:00Quick question here: You have determined the Passe...Quick question here: You have determined the Passes per Turnover Ratio from looking at Passes Successfull and Passes Unsucessful. What about other ways of losing possession i.e. Unsuccessful Dribble? Those wouldn't be included in your Turnovers and would skew the ratios.<br /><br />Cheers,<br /><br />MNAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17926894945432213944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3390339670562150697.post-46816871944765821982013-07-17T13:35:34.258-07:002013-07-17T13:35:34.258-07:00Thanks for the comment. I do still like the passin...Thanks for the comment. I do still like the passing % as a metric but find that, for whatever reason - perhaps they can imagine the actual passing sequence, passes per turnover seems to resonate more with the average soccer watcher.AOLSHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07012226843640147561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3390339670562150697.post-40920773979114875082013-07-14T15:07:28.010-07:002013-07-14T15:07:28.010-07:00Teaching statistics, I have found that while often...Teaching statistics, I have found that while often students cannot intuitively distinguish between a proportion (pass%) and a (odds) ratio (pass/TO), one of the two is usually better understood. <br /><br />Also, like you cleverly showed, the ratio here spreads the data out more so the differences are easier to see. <br /><br />I guess I would say that the only advantage to the pass% is that it is a proportion, and thus the margins of error are easier to calculate if we're willing to accept the binomial probability assumptions...Matthiaskhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07497934702942858454noreply@blogger.com